I have 2 kids and we are currently in Dubai. Most companies involved in retiring overseas such as International Living list only the positive aspects of a country.
In addition, the incessant defending of local culture… which I don’t find particularly interesting or exceptional (cuisine and the arts)… is what holds back progress. You’ll find retired expats in every part of Portugal, but those are some of the largest hotspots.Thanks – I think I am convinced to not move to Portugal but to partake in extended vacations. And just because you’ve bought a cold house, that doesn’t mean you’re going to be cold forever.
Uncivilised. In another language that gets even more difficult. Sometimes it’s hard to find out about these initiatives and maybe you’ll have to start them yourself, but it’s definitely possible to contribute. After 40 years of always wanting more, doing things better, faster, saving money, board meetings, flights etc., what for, its about quality of life and Portugal offers that. Indicators are rarely used, touch parking is common in the cities, and in rural parts of Portugal people often park diagonally across two or three spaces. Thank youI’m definitely not qualified to answer any financial questions, and so I would really recommend speaking to someone who is as this is a very big decision to make. Even smaller things, like starting local a local group (say a book club) can make a difference to a community and can bring both Portuguese and expats together. I have many questions and will appreciate your unvarnished input to help us make the best decisions on how to prepare for living in Madeira/Portugal and how you have found ways to turn lemons to lemonade.ALL: Please feel free to offer up a reply string on this post.Holding a discussion, or better, with someone with social awareness and intelligent application would indeed be a most welcome change.
I am American and lived in Germany and UK for 7 years total. We are considering moving to Portugal from South Africa, a family of four, two sons aged 13 and 11.
I am also a female from TO but living in the US and am quite serious about moving to Portugal. Thanks for the dose of reality. If you can make friends, you can learn to deal with things like bureaucracy, expensive utilities, and everything else.
The restaurants in Lisbon downtown have become tourist traps with bad food and high prices. If America has a “can do” attitude, Portugal often sits at the other side of the spectrum with a “can’t do” attitude.There are a lot of reasons for this difference, particularly historical and cultural reasons, but regardless of them, some people will still find it hard to deal with.Customer service, the art of solving customers’ problems and keeping them happy, is an artform but it’s not an artform that’s particularly popular in Portugal. Seems like government here just give the leftover to people and steal money. No matter who says what, do not part with your money.Did you leave out “Lisbon dog shit”? And, it’s quite rare that anyone ever tells you. Graffiti does seem to be unique to Portugal though.Also, interesting comment re: Chinese VS Portuguese.Portuguese is a Roman/Latin language, related to Spanish, French, Italian, and Catalan. If you live in an apartment in Portugal, it’s not unusual to hear your neighbours watching TV, talking or arguing, listening to music, or just about everything else. Bureaucracy is an uncontrolled madhouse. Not looking to change things other than as it pertains to our own standards of lifestyle and enjoying being happy for each day as it unfolds. My partner and I are looking to move to Portugal from NY. The problem isn’t so much the weather but the housing which tends to be very cold in winter. I assume you’re moving to Madeira or one of the Azores islands? I spent my summers in Aveiro (parents & grandparents are Portuguese). What is health care like in Portugal?I think France is particularly good for healthcare, if I remember correctly.
I have read this entire thread. With its green parks and age-old trees, Viseu is a garden city located in the heart of Portugal. Will never leave third world status.Thanks for commenting! > Portugal > Viseu. May I ask what part of the country you live in?What can you tell me about living there and working as a chiropractor (quiropraxista) in say, Porto!? Can’t wait to retire in the top 3 safest countryI have been visiting Portugal for 10 years to visit my prima who moved there 14 years ago. It’ll still be slightly more expensive here, but not as expensive as if you were coming from somewhere else in the US.Hi James, I too live in LA, and leaving to Portugal in a few weeks.
I wonder if this is part of why, haha. ?Dog Shit everywhere it’s disgusting.. pigeons are also a huge problem here. How is the winter climate in the area around Porto?It’s quite grey and damp, not unlike what you’d find in the North of Europe in terms of colour although it’s definitely milder.
It’s also one of the most expensive countries for fuel, which leads to a lot of people who living near the Spanish border driving across to fill up.Other things that are expensive include anything second hand, cars, furniture, electronic appliances, books, banking, branded international foods and household products (e.g. The streets are narrow, and the cities themselves are quite compact and small. Any insight would be hugely grateful.
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